Rule query.
- Thread starter emmtee83
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nev25
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If you want to waste to practing throwing balls down the gutter go ahead.
What unfair advantage could there possibly be by rolling a ball down the gutter.
HUH
Have you actually taken the time to read that this thread is about????
nev25
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Then I suggest you read again
your comment
Makes no sense at all in respect to my question
nev25
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It don't matter if it goes in the gutter or it knocks 10 pins over
It was still bowled after the game had ended
IS IT A PENALTY???????
bluey
Member
Of course it matters. If he changed balls and changed lines and bowled for a pocket hit then l would understand an advantage argument. If he walked up and rolled the ball directly into the gutter then no advantage could be gained. You would have to look at the intent behind the delivery before you could look into a penalty. Of course l haven't referred to a rule book, l'm only trying to use common sense.
As usual Nev you have wondered off from the original question.
The original question Nev was:
Is the 7 counted and the remaining pins setup on the second cycle, or is the frame re-bowled?
Where in Michaels post is the question: are you "allowed to throw a few balls down for practice" at the end of the game while waiting to change lanes.
Sorry for the spelling error.
Was suppose to read:
If you want to waste time practising throwing balls down the gutter go ahead.
Michaels only mention of balls being bowled after the game finished was to clear the pin from the gutter.
You were the one that said does that mean are you "allowed to throw a few balls down for practice".
Sorry,
I put 2 and 2 together and thought you wanted to practice at the end of the game by throwing balls down the gutter.
The original question Nev was:
Is the 7 counted and the remaining pins setup on the second cycle, or is the frame re-bowled?
Where in Michaels post is the question: are you "allowed to throw a few balls down for practice" at the end of the game while waiting to change lanes.
Sorry for the spelling error.
Was suppose to read:
If you want to waste time practising throwing balls down the gutter go ahead.
Michaels only mention of balls being bowled after the game finished was to clear the pin from the gutter.
You were the one that said does that mean are you "allowed to throw a few balls down for practice".
Sorry,
I put 2 and 2 together and thought you wanted to practice at the end of the game by throwing balls down the gutter.
tonx
New Member
My ruling on the "throwing a ball down the gutter to clear a pin" during a tournament would be a verbal worning or yellow card. Doing stupid things like that COULD put the centres equipment at risk. The ball or the pin could potentially kicked up out of the gutter and go into the masking units or the machine at any combination of angles.
Professionalism. You want Tenpin Bowling to be regarded as a sport? Treat it like a sport. Even if there is no specific ruling regarding the matter itself, it would be very easy to call penalty on the bowler for misconduct and would likely be a verbal warning.
At league level, I would simply ask the counter staff to suggest to the bowler a more appropriate way to deal with deadwood. If the counter staff did not act on the issue, I would assume the staff of the centre do not care what happens to the equipment. Then the next time my bowling ball comes back damaged in that centre, I would know why.
It would also be a stupid thing from the tournament bowlers point of view with the risk of damaging your bowling ball.
Then we talk about the opinions and possible scenarios extending from the issue. What happens if a bowler bowls a shot to clear this aforementioned deadwood, but "accidentally" still keeps the ball on the lane? Then tries again? Makes a bit of joke of the sport to any potential spectators.
Moral to the story, don't do stupid sh1t on the lanes, and throwing the ball down the lane "just to clear some deadwood" is a stupid action. It is something I expect from a 6 year old during disco bowling not from a grown adult playing competitive tenpin bowling. You know that SPORT.......
Professionalism. You want Tenpin Bowling to be regarded as a sport? Treat it like a sport. Even if there is no specific ruling regarding the matter itself, it would be very easy to call penalty on the bowler for misconduct and would likely be a verbal warning.
At league level, I would simply ask the counter staff to suggest to the bowler a more appropriate way to deal with deadwood. If the counter staff did not act on the issue, I would assume the staff of the centre do not care what happens to the equipment. Then the next time my bowling ball comes back damaged in that centre, I would know why.
It would also be a stupid thing from the tournament bowlers point of view with the risk of damaging your bowling ball.
Then we talk about the opinions and possible scenarios extending from the issue. What happens if a bowler bowls a shot to clear this aforementioned deadwood, but "accidentally" still keeps the ball on the lane? Then tries again? Makes a bit of joke of the sport to any potential spectators.
Moral to the story, don't do stupid sh1t on the lanes, and throwing the ball down the lane "just to clear some deadwood" is a stupid action. It is something I expect from a 6 year old during disco bowling not from a grown adult playing competitive tenpin bowling. You know that SPORT.......
On several occassions while bowling Rachuig over the years when a pair of lanes has been held up due to a break down. Bowlers from other teams that have already finished there game have proceeded to the practice lanes to remain warmed up. These practice lanes are used for bowlers from the bench to warm up when coming in next game.
This is a tournament run by TBA, so the answer to this question must be a yes.
Tonx,
"The ball or the pin could potentially kicked up out of the gutter and go into the masking units or the machine at any combination of angles."
wouldnt there be more chance of that happening in the normal course of any game when shooting for corner pins and the ball goes in the gutter well before the pins, at 25-30kms/hr compared to the ball going in the gutter at 5-10 kms/hr at the arrows.
REALLY DONT KNOW WHERE PEOPLE GET THIS THROWING BULLSH!T FROM.
People really need to think before they write SH!T on here.
tonx
New Member
I was going to start this reply with "And" however I remember in primary school that I used to write And before every sentance. So I started this with an I.
And.... where in this thread was ballspeed mentioned previously.
And.... I would still call the action completely unprofessional. I would still warn the bowler against doing the action again, and I would give a yellow card to any re-occurences.
And.... Rachuig Trials? If your bowlers stuff around like that all the time, I would seriously be worried about the state of your states side. From what I hear Rachuig is about winning, not about "just clearing some deadwood from the lanes" or at the social level "I was just clearing the balls that are stuck in the machine"
I enjoy watching other sports because of complete professionalism. Why does this not matter at your qualifying for the highest state level competition in Australia?
And.... where in this thread was ballspeed mentioned previously.
And.... I would still call the action completely unprofessional. I would still warn the bowler against doing the action again, and I would give a yellow card to any re-occurences.
And.... Rachuig Trials? If your bowlers stuff around like that all the time, I would seriously be worried about the state of your states side. From what I hear Rachuig is about winning, not about "just clearing some deadwood from the lanes" or at the social level "I was just clearing the balls that are stuck in the machine"
I enjoy watching other sports because of complete professionalism. Why does this not matter at your qualifying for the highest state level competition in Australia?
Roysa
Well-Known Member
Agree.....
jimcross
Active Member
This really is ridiculous, starting from the SECOND post. As I said waaaay back, the answer to the question could be found in the rules, and should not take much over a minute to find. Opinions were and are irrelevant ( be they right or wrong) because this is supposed to be a sport, and where there is a rule, then the rule must be referred to and applied. The End!
