ACT & Southern NSW Presidents Shield Roll-Offs

[~Mrs STORM~]

Yay!!! Dion knows what he is on about...and I agree.
But what has been done, has been done...lots of people are/were not happy with the decisions made but thats just the way things are.
Personally, Id like to just get on with it, and prepare for Shield 05.
And Cow, do what Brad said...coz he is so right.

 

[bowlingbuddy]

the committee also gave the reason the sarrah is too erratic in her bowling,
then they pick people for the reserves that are constantly up and down and cant bowl anywhere but there own centre. i think that the committee in this and recent years have had conflicts of interest with people they know trying out for the team. The committee should be impartial.

 

[act_bowler]

This has nothing to do with Lysa at all, i know she is a good bowler. It the way the committee makes it's decisions.
Choosing team members according to their experience is not always the best way to go about it either, because all of those experienced bowlers are going to turn 18, then nobody has experience anymore. A whole new team, with nobody that has been there before.
It doesn't matter whether how Lysa would've bowled without the injury, that's not what this is about, nothing personal about it at all, just the way the selection process is being used, and personally, my opinion, over the last few years, this year too, being abused.
WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF BOWLING??? and how is that exactly?
I agree with Brett, President's Sheild is about the bowlers. They should all go out there and have fun, enjoy being part of a state team, having the privledge to represent their own state. Without having to worry about all of these stupid politics, that come with it.

 

[Peanut]

Ok for a start act_bowler, how about putting Ur name in Ur posts?

WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF BOWLING??? and how is that exactly?

Mate, I have dreamed about shield, this was my first year of shield, and it was nothing like my dreams. The noise of the 3 days was just........ There isn’t really a word to say it. The bowling factor is just totally different to any other thing I have bowled in, the only thing that would come close, is bowling my 300. But this was harder on the body mentally and physically, u ask any bowler that has bowled shield, they will say it is a blast. The level of bowling in Australia (that I have seen) is Phenomenal and it going to get bigger and better.

Ash

 

[TAZ]

For all of you who have commented about Lysa she had 2 vertabrae dislocated in her neck, she continued to bowl both days with this injury so she would not have to be selected, but get it on her bowling ability, if you look after the first weekend you would see that she was actually in third place. she has seen a specialist and has recieved treatment and will make a full recovery.
As for choosing captains this is always hard & i have always felt that it should be up to the team to decide who they would like as their captains. I submitted to the AGM asking this to happen, but nobody agreed with me. This included parents & family of people who were expecting to become captain. Nothing can be changed if support isnt given in order to make changes, remember its not just one person on a commitee who decides, there is several. No matter how loud that person shouts, they are not always heard. And its not fair that one person takes the blame for the entire commitee's decision.

 

[act_bowler]

Dont take this as an attack on the bowlers as I have been there and I know that it is an arduous task to get into sheild, but my beef as someone put it is the selection process that the committee undertakes with the team.
Who is getting blamed for it anyway?[/quote]

 

[Lys]

well i realise people have differnent opinions and that some may think i shouldn't have been selected for the team i respect this and thats fine, for those of use who disagree or have complaints about the way our team is formed/selected let me just say that at the 1st day of roll-offs before we started bowling EVERYONE including parents (well those who went in the meeting) were told the way the team would be formed that is the top 5 and then 6th and 7th being selected for whatever reasons we were then asked if everyone agreed and NOT 1 PERSON said they disagreed or had any problems with the way it worked, so all competitors and parents of those involved went in knowing what could happen and that if they didnt make top 5 or finished 6th or 7th it was no guarantee they would be selected and everyone was willing to abide by this. as for my injury mum has already stated what happened and the fact is it wasn't a previous injury i sustained it whilst bowling on that weekend which shows that it could happen to anyone that anyone is able to sustain the same injury whilst bowling its just one of those things that can happen but i have recieved treatment and will be fine to bowl with slim chance of it recuring altho it is possible its also just as possible for someone else to acquire the same injury, know i have nothing at all against kyle i think he is a great bowler with great potential but look at his injury you cant say that has less possibility of recurring then mine does and all thats said about him is that people were glad he was selected, the fact that his injury is likely of recurring then the question has to be asked why was he selected? although he is very good what about the others who could of been selected who are just as good as him but who dont have an injury? im not trying to get on anyones bad side but the only thing that can be said is that people are selected for different and im sure sensible reasons and under certain circumstances that are unknown to most people so unless your a person who knows then how do u have the right to pass judgement???

 

[micky_macca]

Seriously theres one thing I can say about this, the selection of captains and Lysa being picked.

If you have an oppinion put a name to it..

It's like telling someone off in public wearing a disguise so you dont cop the crap for it.

Seriously, grow up!

 

[TAZ]

Seriously theres one thing I can say about this, the selection of captains and Lysa being picked

what is the one thing you can say about this macca?

blame went to the poor bugger who had to tell the families and everyone else why the decision was made.know one cared what this person was feeling and how hard it was to tell them, they were treated as if they were the one who made this decision not the commitee

 

[kay101]

hi all...
just like to say, although ppl were chosen into the team, such as lysa and kyle...it was the COMMITTEES choice, not theres...
dont get upset or blame them for injurys or woteva the reasons may be.

the choices for the captians left me in a bit of shock but im sure the committee has a reason for it, although im still tryin to work it out...
the ppl 'captian' roles were given to (in the boys)were unexpected, but im sure they will put in just as much effort as previous yrs and will do a good job.

i personally dont like the '5 in choose 2' rule, as it often causes disputes...as shown, but however its done, so congrats to all that made it and cant wait sheild!

~byes~

kara

 

[luke]

if we look at cows record for shield, then why the hell isnt he captain, but ne ways just makee u top all star, for another year

 

[Brett Hall]

Seriously theres one thing I can say about this, the selection of captains and Lysa being picked

what is the one thing you can say about this macca?

blame went to the poor bugger who had to tell the families and everyone else why the decision was made.know one cared what this person was feeling and how hard it was to tell them, they were treated as if they were the one who made this decision not the commitee

I believe the "one thing" that Macca is referring to, is act_bowler not revealing their name to everyone. Though, I notice Macca, your name isnt actually easily discernable, besides in your profile. Didn't it used to be in your signature?

I was not at Shield roll-offs, so I don't know exactly how it went down, but it is not fair to attack the messenger......EVER. The only thing I have a concern about is the committee's decision for captaincy's, and the lack of bowler input, preparation & communication that has occured for previous President's Shield team(s).

 

[Dion A]

I don't know who raised the issue about having the bowlers vote for captains but do you think this would really work???? This year we had 5 boys put forward to captain our shield side, leaving two other 'swinging' votes so in a situation like that could you say the right person got the job or not???? This year we had a captain selection process which i think was fair, not just because i was successful but because the selectors got a greater incite 2 the bowlers and actually got 2 know people before they made their decision!! This process involved an application letter and then an interview!! Maybe painstaking and drawn-out but atleast everyone is then given a fair go!! Maybe it mite be a good idea for other zones/states 2 use this process???

Dion

 

[nugget300]

All i have to say about this captain stuff for the boys team is all a load of BULLS**T. I was involved with the ACT & Southern NSW Shield team for 9 years, the last 7 making the team and the last 3 was selected captain. SELECTED BY MY TEAM MATES. Not once did the committee have any say in the selection of the captains, it was always voted by the kids, and always should be. The kids will choose who they think is most equipped to make the correct decisions for the team, but most importantly will select who they look up to and respect as bowlers and people. This being said, the kids may not have selected the most obvious candidate (being cowland) but in the end the captain still would have been selected by THE TEAM and that would be ok.

As far as the guys who are in the spotlight go, congratulations on making the team, Michael being his second year, and Ian his first time in shield. Nothing against Ian at all, but too the committee who made this selection, you cant have a rookie as captain, especially when you have someone as experienced as Stephen in the team. Someone correct me if im wrong, but the reason given for Stephen not being selected as captain was because "HE IS NOT A TEAM PLAYER". Im not sure what the committees definition of a team player is but it seems that someone who screams their lungs out for 3 days straight, encourages his team members non stop through good and bad and bowls well enough while doing the above to make 2 ALL STAR TEAMS IN A ROW does not fit into that category of a "TEAM PLAYER".

Anyway, congrats to all who made it, I hope all the politics doesnt ruin your fun that is President Shield.

Parents should stay to booking the rooms, transporting the kids around and let the kids have some FUN, cause thats what its all about FUN. Stop trying to control everything, leave politics out and let the kids bowl.

Thats my 2c worth

 

[bowlingbuddy]

Parents should stay to booking the rooms, transporting the kids around and let the kids have some FUN, cause thats what its all about FUN. Stop trying to control everything, leave politics out and let the kids bowl.

Thats my 2c worth

exactly let it go back to what it should be, a fun experience for kids.

 

[siMple plAn]

i agree totally with robbie. if the reason for cow not making captain is "HE IS NOT A TEAM PLAYER" then im sorry to say the ACT commitee has got somethig wrong upstairs.
ive know cow for a fair while, ive bowled agaisnt him in shield for 2 years and ive bowled with him for australia and in my opinion he is one of, if not the biggest team player there is. he yells, he encourages and he all he does is bowl well. could you ask for a better "TEAM PLAYER". i think not.
thanks
Bobby

 

[Shadow]

!!!

i reckon that this years roll off was way different and has made alot of discussion and arguements.
everyone who is raving on about lysa being vice captain you should get over it.
lysa deserves to be vice, she has proven herself to be a good vice.
i know when i herd lysa was vice in the announcment room i wasnt surprised because i know wat she has acheived and if it wasnt for her injury she woulda made the top 5 for sure.
you shouldnt give her a hard time for that wasnt as bad as the boys side.
Cow deserves to be captain on is last year, he has topped everyone and is one of the best and hasnt got captain for it, not even vice! i no i would be disapointed if that happend to me.

 

[Peanut]

Cow deserves to be captain on is last year, he has topped everyone and is one of the best and hasnt got captain for it, not even vice! i no i would be disapointed if that happend to me.

Disappointed? I WOULD BE SPITING CHIPS, cow is A GREAT bloke, he has repesented Australia at the 7th Asian Schools, in Hong Kong, he as toped all stars, 3rd years at shield, plus this year coming. In my eyes and most other people he should have got caption hands down.

That’s just my view

Ashley

 

[Shadow]

yea and that \/

 

[~Mrs STORM~]

Roll offs were only different in the fact that Kyle was shoved into 7th place, and that they swapped Lysa and Sarrahs finishing positions around.
What Bobby said bout Cow was right...I will back it, coz even though I was rather busy yelling and screaming at Shield myself, I also saw Cow down there, doing the same thing for the boys (and then even us girls if we were to finish after them).
But anyway, what has been done, has been done. We can say what we want, but it aint gunna change anything, and I hope that the decisions made wont change anything for our team at Shield (especially between the players).