should berry hall play in the grand final?

should Barry Hall play in the grand final?

  • yes, nothing in it.

    Votes: 21 51.2%

  • no, deserves what he gets.

    Votes: 11 26.8%

  • dont really care, just want to see a good match.

    Votes: 9 22.0%
  • Total voters
    41
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should barry hall play in the grand final?

hey, just wondering what everyone thinks about wether barry hall should play this weekend.
 
Nothing in it, he should play, I've seen 2 year olds hit harder then that... Amazing thing the media, this is a classic Trial by Media case!

The real question should be Why is Matt McGuire so soft?
 
ABSOLUTELY NOT AND I HOPE HE GETS BANNED AND THAT SYDENY LOOSE!!!!!!!!

Although i know Darren Jolly very well - it would be good for him to play since leaving Melbourne at the start of the season.

CHAZ
 
It was a careless act but certainly not a reckless one. Maguire should be cited for milking it... It was a little lovetap. If he does get cited then it should be a substantial fine or a suspended sentence for the Grand Final --- then if he mucks up this Saturday then the tribunal should throw the book at him!!

It would be great if he plays from a football point of view as the grand final is supposed to be a showpiece for the 2 best teams in the competition... fielding their best players!

Hall should definitely play on this last weekend in September!
 
slatergirl said:
ABSOLUTELY NOT AND I HOPE HE GETS BANNED AND THAT SYDENY LOOSE!!!!!!!!

Although i know Darren Jolly very well - it would be good for him to play since leaving Melbourne at the start of the season.

CHAZ
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Should never mention Sydney and loose in the same sentence!!!!

McGuire has already put in his best effort to make Australia's Commonwealth Games team... I'm sure our divers will be learning from the great man and his even greater technique!!

If Hall goes it will prove one thing, only real champions (Archer) can give love-taps..
Misses Hall and Gerhig should take note and join a real club!
 
Go barry you good thing. He will be there and get theThe Norm Smith Medal.
 
Maybe Maguire's been taking lessons from his teammate Milne? :p If Barry wanted to belt him, he could have put him in hospital, not this "love tap" bs! Carn the Bloods!!
 
Should get off. It'd be soft as butter if he gets rubbed out for that.
If he does cop a week for it, it will only reinforce in my mind that the AFL is becoming Auskick for Adults, and not really worth watching anymore.
 
a couple of weeks back sume one got a week for a blow to the gut that wasnt nearly as hard as his tho.

they might be lenient coz its grand finals tho
 
Just said hall will play saturday.............................. :cool:
 
oh come on, hall has been suspended like 11 times and he goes and does this? love tap or not, hes a goddamn idiot.
 
The AFL's showcase game will not be denied one of its biggest stars after the tribunal cleared Sydney Swans skipper Barry Hall to play in Saturday's grand final.

The Swans' odds of beating West Coast at the MCG on Saturday and claiming their first premiership in 72 years lengthened significantly when their best player and leading goalkicker was reported.

Hall pleaded guilty to striking St Kilda's Matt Maguire to the stomach in last Friday's preliminary final, but successfully argued the incident took place "in play" rather than "behind play".

That had the effect of downgrading the offence from a level two, to level one striking charge, worth 125 activation points.

When combined with a 25 per cent reduction for his early guilty plea, it took the points level below the 100-point threshold for a suspension, meaning he received a reprimand, but is clear to play in the premiership decider.

Immediately after receiving the verdict, Hall thanked the supporters who had rallied behind him during an uncertain past few days, including a handful who gathered outside AFL House on Tuesday to await the decision.



"All the Sydney supporters, all the Melbourne supporters, there's a couple of people outside who have turned out for me, so that's fantastic," Hall said.

"Now I'm just really looking forward to Saturday, I can't wait to get back into it."

West Coast defender Travis Gaspar is also available to play on Saturday, after the tribunal found him not guilty of striking Adelaide's Ken McGregor in Saturday's preliminary final at Subiaco.

The jury agreed with Gaspar's argument, that his elbow to the face of McGregor before the opening bounce was an instinctive action committed in self-defence, as McGregor was trying to bump him.

About 40 media representatives attended the hearing, where Hall admitted to striking Maguire to the stomach and said he did it to try to impose himself on the match.

"It was a physical game, there were two big bodies and I wanted to make a physical impact on the game, even though the contact was minimal," he said in evidence.

But Hall's advocate Terry Forrest QC successfully argued that while Hall was about 30 metres away from the ball at the time, he was in play because he was trying to position himself where he thought the ball was about to go.

"We say Barry Hall was trying to put himself into the play, both before, after and during the incident," Forrest said.

"We submit that there was every chance that Barry Hall was going to be involved in the next passage of play."

Tribunal chairman David Jones told the jury to ignore "the huge amount of publicity" surrounding the case and not to allow any sympathy for Hall because a grand final berth was at stake to interfere with their decision.

But he told them in his opinion, formed from watching the footage of the incident that was played in evidence, Hall did not take his eyes off from where the ball or the play was.

He said the question the jury had to answer was whether they were satisfied Barry Hall was not "in proximity of the play or where it could reasonably be anticipated the next passage of play may occur".

After a hearing of about an hour, the jury of former players - Emmett Dunne, Richard Loveridge and Wayne Schimmelbusch - took just four minutes to answer "no" to that question, clearing Hall to play on Saturday.
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Peace
Chris
 
Congratulation to Alex and the rest of the wankers in the AFL for making this a pure National competition. Once again the pro interstaters get their way, both Gasper and Hall get off charges that were worth 2-3 weeks. The Tribunal set a precedent early in the year year when they suspended Camporeale and Gehrig for a week each for something that wasn't even close to being as bad as Hall's. Consistency is a wonderful thing but it is a word the cannot be used in the sentence as 3 other things. AFL, Tribunal and Umpires.

Camporeale - preseason - 1 week - your kidding - precedent set
Gehrig - Regular season - 1 week - consistant
T.Cloke - Regular season - wacked 2 Geelong players - not cited
Hunt (WCE) - Reg Season - smacks a guy in the nuts - cited but let off
Archer - Finals - not cited - wot a joke
Hall - Finals - cited - reduced - how
Gasper - same - same - same

Where is the consistancy pls explain

Matthew Lambrick
Saints Fan
Level 2 Umpire of 15 years experience
 
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