Hardest & easiest Lane conditions in Qld?

About right Tangles except for the line - We're not going to stop anyone from bowling here.

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Like i said i never had a problem with Nik averageing 220 for that day.
But saying the lanes are easy is making a generalisation which shouldnt be made because as people have said not all lanes are easy/hard for everyone.

And thankyou for closing the argument....
 
Some people fail to realise the difference between an individual scoring and an entire league or center scoring. Forget comparing individual averages, that is useless, look at league averages or go even further and look right across the center. This is the only thing worth any merit and this is part of the information centers use to gauge their condition. Saying that, too many people jump onto the defensive about lane conditions, quite frankly I think it is sickening. Now don’t get me wrong, I'm not one of the people to complain week in week out (so don’t even think about flaming me), each week I am optimistic and I hope things have improved, but I do feel as a bowler I have a right to comment on a situation that directly effects me. The difference between some people is they just jump on the bandwagon without actually knowing what is going on, if someone says the lanes are crap, it is far easier to agree with the person than to actually search out the finer details for yourself.

What I do wonder is when are centers, in particular managers and back end staff, going to be held accountable for the conditions set within their center? As a bowler we have bugger all rights in regards to this, as this thread demonstrates we are continually told to deal with it or don’t come back. I feel that is very negative, I do feel the comments are probably valid in a lot of cases, but I do feel when a majority complains about the scoring condition you have to wonder if there is something to it. I will never put down higher scoring conditions because I think it is a tool to continue to survival of our sport in the country, but on the other end of the scale, some of the utter crap that is being dished out week in week out is just appalling. Where do we find the point to stop and say, hey, this just isn’t right, something has to be done about it. Bowlers pay good money to bowl each night in league, I think it is about time that they are given a minimum standard of service.

I can see where this is going now, someone is going to say something about tough conditions and not being able to bowl on them, well there is a tough condition intentionally set to reduce scoring, bring the league averages closer together and to promote accuracy, then there is crap. Crap is simply a failure to provide a universal scoring condition regardless of bowler ability, technique or equipment. We have all been there at one stage, when a center reaches a point where the condition continually given to bowlers is sub standard, that is an issue that needs immediate attention.

There have been one or two centers in the past that have, for reasons we can never fathom, been guilty of this. What I want to know is, in what mind set is it possible to come to the conclusion that neglecting your lanes, your center and most importantly your bowlers, is the best for your business? I can’t understand how people can reach the conclusion that this is the best business plan. As I said earlier, someone has to be held accountable, you cannot continue any further advancement within our sport until this happens. In the end it rests with managers and back end staff (to a lesser degree), I feel bowling is at a point where this seriously needs to be looked at by our governing body in an effort to ensure the health of our sport in 5 or 10 years time. A plan needs to be developed with thought of a uniform code of practise throughout the industry, this will take massive amounts of time invested and it cannot be done without the support and input from centers and all relevant associations. Notice how I never mentioned anything about bowlers? Do you want to know why?

How many people actually know their local elected board member in their center or their area? How many people actually attend general meetings? How many people actually have any communication with the president of their league? These people aren’t just pretty faces, they have been elected in an effort to deal with the problems faced in our sport. What needs to happen is bowlers need to shut up, quite simply, redirect this negative energy into making a positive out of it. If you have a problem with your lane conditions, or staff in your center, or another bowler, or, well anything (how about the lights being too bright?) go and have a friendly chat with your local official. That is what they are there for people! That is their job! That is why you, the bowler elected them. No... hang on... I can hear most people thinking.... hey I never elected them! Well I am sorry to say but you did so in your absence. If you attended general meetings you would have had a say in who was elected. Now hang on a second, before you abuse me yet again because I told you to shut up, I am not for one second saying you cannot publicly voice you opinion on an open forum such as this. What I am saying is, if you have a problem, follow the chain of command and do something positive to fix the situation. If you have a problem with the condition in league, speak to your president, if he feels your comments are warranted, he will take them to the manager. This is how it is supposed to happen people, you voice your problems, your elected official works out if there is a problem that needs addressing (or are you talking out of your behind), then does something about it.

Some sort of communication needs to get happening between bowlers, centers, associations (both regional and at a state level) and the governing body. At the moment, it is about on par with 20 yards of string and two ice cream cups, restricted at best, garbled at worst. Governing bodies (especially at a state level) need to be given the power to implement these sanctions and disqualify (or perhaps ban?) people (centers and bowlers) on a national level for not meeting the requirements set out in the charter. At the moment, nobody has any real power to do anything, the way things are at present, it is just a load of talk, and you might as well not bother with any rules in our sport (what good are rules if nobody has the power to enforce them?).

To me this is one of the most un-organised, organised sports I have had the pleasure of being part of. :)

So yeah, if you missed all that and want end notes. Here they are.

1. If you have a problem, address the problem with those officials elected. That is what they are for.

2. Quit bitching about every little detail, it is negative, it is useless and it never gets anyone anywhere. All it does is establish arguments.

3. Feel welcome to address your situation in public, but make sure you have followed steps 1 and 2, if you haven’t done something positive about it, we don’t want to hear from you.

4. Get back to bowling and let the officials do their work. The more you have to think about things out of your control, the more enjoyment is taken out of your sport.

5. Get involved in your sport and attend meetings to hear your concerns (if valid) raised.

You can be vocal in your opinions about what you think is 'wrong' with our sport, but it is your duty to take positive steps to address your concerns. In the end it rest's with us, the bowlers, if we want our sport to change for the better we need to get involved.

Ohh and yet again before you walk away with the notion I have no idea what I am talking about, the above is a load of rubbish, I don’t follow any of the above, I am only trying to make trouble (need I go on?). I do know who my officials are, I do listen to points raised by fellow bowlers, staff and officials alike, I do try talk to them on a regular basis and we actually discuss things in a normal manner. :) Well as best as one can hope for when dealing with tyrannical people driven mad by the quest for power and domination :lol:
 
hey every body wondering about the hyperdome centre. it is goin to have leagues. as iam already signed up for one and others taht i no are bowling in leagues there. teh mangers of teh centre are very nice and seem to no about how to run a effective bowling alley
 
Hey everyone.
I just wanted to say something about Redcliffe's poor performance for the Secondary Schools Competition.
I have a bigger shot crossing probably 15-18 boards usually.
And i watched them oil the lanes 5 mins before we started the competetion.
At the time when we commenced our practice session the lanes were dry and there was no sign of oil anywhere.
I was just wondering why this was and if anything is going to be done about it in future.
At the time i was thinking "there oiling machine's instruction manual must only consist of 1 step, being check the tank" I also thought they must have skipped that step.

Anyway thats all from me.
I just thought someone might be able to help me out with understanding this problem.

Seeya
 
Levithian (Aka Rodney McClure I do believe), just wondering about the finer details of how your ball collection is going?? Here's another question you might be able to right another essay about......Can you explain to me what CRAP is that you talk about?
 
SwitchBladex said:
Hey everyone.
I just wanted to say something about Redcliffe's poor performance for the Secondary Schools Competition.
I have a bigger shot crossing probably 15-18 boards usually.
And i watched them oil the lanes 5 mins before we started the competetion.
At the time when we commenced our practice session the lanes were dry and there was no sign of oil anywhere.
I was just wondering why this was and if anything is going to be done about it in future.
At the time i was thinking "there oiling machine's instruction manual must only consist of 1 step, being check the tank" I also thought they must have skipped that step.

Anyway thats all from me.
I just thought someone might be able to help me out with understanding this problem.

Seeya

You raise some points here that are interesting. Redcliffe has a fairly well-known reputation for being an extremely dry centre. I don't know if this was your first time bowling in this centre or not. If you had bowled there before, you should have expected that. If not, fair enough.

Redcliffe is doing it's best to improve conditions. I know that because a) I bowl there every week, b) because I bowled there on Friday last week and was asked for my opinion and c) because I'm a techo at another centre.

Put it this way - if you had bowled on Friday daytime last week - you would have had some serious troubles hooking a ball. I could not hook it 2-handed more than about 5-7 boards at about 22 km/hr. And yes I can hook a ball pretty big 2-handed, even though I do not normally bowl 2-handed. It was also one of the bigger out-of bounds that I've ever seen, it made for an interesting day.

By this Sunday just gone, I believe the lanes were back to a decent condition, even if somewhat dry. This is what I gather from a couple of bowlers who bowled in the ATBSO there on Sunday. I bowled there on Tuesday night, and the condition was pretty much back to normal - and yes dry. This is standard for Redcliffe, and standard for most of the centres in Brisbane. And yes I realise that this is a genenalisation. But at least the condition was consistant.

I know that the head tech over there knows what he is doing, and he is doing everything he can to improve things. I'm also sure there was oil in the Summit's tanks :) The question is how far was the oil down the lane. Finding a good line to the pocket and carrying is not all that difficult at Redcliffe, long as you can read a lane well enough.

Good luck with your bowling in the future and hope you did well in the competition.
 
hard or easy lane condition bowling centre

hello, this is first time to put this topic from myself.
myself find our experience to be bowled on the not many bowling centres becasue i am left hander so

hardest one is bundy bowl once time, richard bowl few times, old wood milton bowl often times, mt warren bowl once time, cannon hill bowl few times :?

easiest one is kedron-two times,chermside if league on-once time,aspley bowl many times except lane no 1/2 only.
:) :) :)
depending conditions lanes is mt gravatt lane or greenspoles lanes can be hard one or easy. :) :( :eek:

myself can't remember what like condition lane at the ipswich bowl :?:it maybe easy one???

myself never been playing on the capalba bowl or caboolture or and brown plain but seen inside three bowl places :) :)
 
hard or easy lane condition bowling centre

hello, this is first time to put this topic from myself.
myself find our experience to be bowled on the not many bowling centres becasue i am left hander so

hardest one is bundy bowl once time, richard bowl few times, old wood milton bowl often times, mt warren bowl once time, cannon hill bowl few times :?

easiest one is kedron-two times,chermside if league on-once time,aspley bowl many times except lane no 1/2 only.
:) :) :)
depending conditions lanes is mt gravatt lane or greenspoles lanes can be hard one or easy. :) :( :eek:

myself can't remember what like condition lane at the ipswich bowl :?:it maybe easy one???

myself never been playing on the capalba bowl or caboolture or and brown plain but seen inside three bowl places :) :)
 
hey every body wondering about the hyperdome centre. it is goin to have leagues. as iam already signed up for one and others taht i no are bowling in leagues there. teh mangers of teh centre are very nice and seem to no about how to run a effective bowling alley


luke it seam the the hyerdome will be open around dec. I to have signed to joine a league also
I work at the hydome shopping center so I knows what is going on
 
Its good that u no wats goin on. but wat about the rest of the people. just thought i let them no, and give a bit of advertising for the bowl
 
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