bowling team rigged
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Hey m8
Taken from Sheppartons Tenpin Bowling Association Country Cup Entry Form
Country Cup Format 2005\2006
Country Cup is open to all regisitered members of shepparton who are full-time league bowlers,and will have at least 50 games up in league prior to the first trial date of 15\10\05. Also each bowler wishing to trial shall have completed an all events in the local championships which were bowled on the 30th april,1st,21st and 22nd May 2005
The Format will be 2 x 9 game trials to qualify.
At the end of the 3 qualifying dates the top 3 men and women with the highest scratch pinfall over there two trials will automatically be in our Country Cup Teams to represent Shepparton in Bendigo in 2006,with the other 4 members of each team to be selected by a selection committee,which will comprise of last years managers and captains and an STBA committee member.
Once the teams have been named all members must remain full-time league bowlers,The selection committee will the become a Disputes Committee to handle any Country Cup problems arising from 16th October 2005, until the team plays in 2006,Any decision this committee makes will be final.
Taken from Sheppartons Tenpin Bowling Association Country Cup Entry Form
Country Cup Format 2005\2006
Country Cup is open to all regisitered members of shepparton who are full-time league bowlers,and will have at least 50 games up in league prior to the first trial date of 15\10\05. Also each bowler wishing to trial shall have completed an all events in the local championships which were bowled on the 30th april,1st,21st and 22nd May 2005
The Format will be 2 x 9 game trials to qualify.
At the end of the 3 qualifying dates the top 3 men and women with the highest scratch pinfall over there two trials will automatically be in our Country Cup Teams to represent Shepparton in Bendigo in 2006,with the other 4 members of each team to be selected by a selection committee,which will comprise of last years managers and captains and an STBA committee member.
Once the teams have been named all members must remain full-time league bowlers,The selection committee will the become a Disputes Committee to handle any Country Cup problems arising from 16th October 2005, until the team plays in 2006,Any decision this committee makes will be final.
*chook :>*
A child of bowling
Personally, I totally disagree with any trial andselection, ie. the format for Shepp above, and another example some of the trials for State teams with a top 5 guaranteed-2 selected..
I dont think it is fair for the bowlers competing and it can be quite upsetting when you have supposedly finished in the team only to have someone selected over you..
I do see some advantages, such as one of the best bowlers may be injured and the increase in determination to finish in the top/guaranteed positions but it is up to the association/committee and all bowlers who compete to get into the team should be informed that it can happen and if you compete knowing this and someone is selected over you then all the more motivation to make it into the guaranteed positions next year..
I would rather see people make and miss out on the team fairly with top 7 qualifiers make the team no matter what.. then everyone has to bring their best game and the best man/woman wins..
I dont think it is fair for the bowlers competing and it can be quite upsetting when you have supposedly finished in the team only to have someone selected over you..
I do see some advantages, such as one of the best bowlers may be injured and the increase in determination to finish in the top/guaranteed positions but it is up to the association/committee and all bowlers who compete to get into the team should be informed that it can happen and if you compete knowing this and someone is selected over you then all the more motivation to make it into the guaranteed positions next year..
I would rather see people make and miss out on the team fairly with top 7 qualifiers make the team no matter what.. then everyone has to bring their best game and the best man/woman wins..
Woza
Active Member
I also agree with you *chook :>* in the way that they select their teams but with no disrespect for trickey40 I feel that this topic is one that should have been taken up with the association/selection commitee and settled at the level rather than aired on a public forum. Espically if it is clearly stated on the nomination/entry form top 3 automatic and last 4 selected as Kev has posted.*chook :>* said:
granat
Total Bowlerer
Woza said:
Good call Woza,
Personally I believe the Association has an obligation to have the best team possible represent them. This does not necessarily mean the best 7 bowlers on a given day or two but but the best 7 over an extended (set) period of time and/or events.
Graeme
Purple_Tweety
Miss Paige
It is clearly stated on the entry form which all triallers must sign and abide by, the terms by which the team is decided upon.
Each association has their own way of selecting their country cup team. And no matter which way it is done it does not please everybody. And I also agree that it should not have been brought up on a public forum, if you have a problem take it up with the selection/disputes committee.
Each association has their own way of selecting their country cup team. And no matter which way it is done it does not please everybody. And I also agree that it should not have been brought up on a public forum, if you have a problem take it up with the selection/disputes committee.
Purple_Tweety
Miss Paige
AdrianS said:
It is to you but to some of us "country" bowlers its the highest level that is bowled, its an expensive sport!!
L
leathalman
maybe the rules should have been adhered to.
the word is the selection commitee did not exsist as stated on entry form late check in times were ignored. if that is not rigged then i dont know what is. this team was pre selected and the trial was a fast. he has every reason to be mad. A mates job
the word is the selection commitee did not exsist as stated on entry form late check in times were ignored. if that is not rigged then i dont know what is. this team was pre selected and the trial was a fast. he has every reason to be mad. A mates job
xpense
retired
leathalman said:
Not wishing to get involved in this debat, but if the above comments are true, did you or anyone else lodge a protest with the committee, as this would have been they way to resolve this issue. The avenues are there for these issues to be resolved, and need to be adheared to by all bowlers, and if someone checks in late, and no one protests about that, then all bowlers have accepted this is acceptable as no one protested.
This forum was not the ideal place to air these issues, and should have been taken to the committee involved, as per the rules listed on the entry form.
I would have also thought the committee would have existed, as it was last years managers, team captains,a nd a assoc. rep, and they should all have been at the trials, it was outlined in teh rules, as l am sure the issue about protests would have been as well.
L
leathalman
the commitee did not comprise of the personal as advertised or stated on the entry.
no last years coach ,no last years captain, the stba president and the 1st qualifier , this was wrong , definately a mates job.
no last years coach ,no last years captain, the stba president and the 1st qualifier , this was wrong , definately a mates job.
wheelbarrow
Member
So I gather you are pi.....ed off Mark
L
leathalman
That is what has been said (yes) correct
Purple_Tweety
Miss Paige
I'm sorry but I have to say something.
If there was no protest made at the time of the trials, and there wasn't.
Why does this thread even exist?
Stop crapping on about it now because your not going to accomplish anything except get people involved who are hearing the story from the person who was dropped from the team. And not get the whole story either by the way.
The reason the selection committee wasn't as stated on the entry form was because the captain was up for selection himself, therefore could not give his opinion to choose himself and drop someone else der! And the men's team manager was not a shepparton bowler anyway and wasn't there. The men's 1st qualifier gave an opinion as top qualifer but was not part of the actual selection of the team. So that is why the committee was not as stated on the entry form. And if you were going to bring things up like this on the forum you should give the whole story and not twist it to make your side seem so hard done by.
You brought it to the attention of the STBA but still continued to keep this thread going. What are you actually after Mark, do you want them to change the team and put you in?
Going about it the way you have shows that you are actually trying to target people involved personally and that is not appreciated. Not only by me either for the record.
This is not the way to go about earning respect either. I'm sorry others had to read this but I felt it was time for me to say my piece and that was it.
Paige Williams
(Just in case you didn't know it was me)
Shepparton
If there was no protest made at the time of the trials, and there wasn't.
Why does this thread even exist?
Stop crapping on about it now because your not going to accomplish anything except get people involved who are hearing the story from the person who was dropped from the team. And not get the whole story either by the way.
The reason the selection committee wasn't as stated on the entry form was because the captain was up for selection himself, therefore could not give his opinion to choose himself and drop someone else der! And the men's team manager was not a shepparton bowler anyway and wasn't there. The men's 1st qualifier gave an opinion as top qualifer but was not part of the actual selection of the team. So that is why the committee was not as stated on the entry form. And if you were going to bring things up like this on the forum you should give the whole story and not twist it to make your side seem so hard done by.
You brought it to the attention of the STBA but still continued to keep this thread going. What are you actually after Mark, do you want them to change the team and put you in?
Going about it the way you have shows that you are actually trying to target people involved personally and that is not appreciated. Not only by me either for the record.
This is not the way to go about earning respect either. I'm sorry others had to read this but I felt it was time for me to say my piece and that was it.
Paige Williams
(Just in case you didn't know it was me)
Shepparton
opinions on committee's on here doesn't work, believe me, i am living proof of what can happen if you say the wrong thing on here (whether it is truth or not is irrellevant)
i wasn't picked last year, they went under me, regardless of my record at geelong since returning home. 1 win, 1 2nd and 2 all stars.
whats rellevant is what you say, not what you knock over when it comes to selection in some cases.
and anyone who comes on here expressing disapproval, believe this, it will be taken personally and it will come back to haunt you.
here is a place with very few writers but thousands of readers, sometimes we dont realise how much we are judged from the blatant serious remark right thru to the tongue in cheek ones
i wasn't picked last year, they went under me, regardless of my record at geelong since returning home. 1 win, 1 2nd and 2 all stars.
whats rellevant is what you say, not what you knock over when it comes to selection in some cases.
and anyone who comes on here expressing disapproval, believe this, it will be taken personally and it will come back to haunt you.
here is a place with very few writers but thousands of readers, sometimes we dont realise how much we are judged from the blatant serious remark right thru to the tongue in cheek ones
