well i've tried my hardest to stay out of this but there is too many issues that need to be addressed..
im not sure if everyone knows correct me if im wrong but chris usher is one of the partners in ingle farm bowland?? not only that but is also the 'main man' when it comes to resurfacing lanes in australia and the asia pacific region??
hence him having a good old dig at us bowlers when we tear his centre apart, the conditions he puts down and the approaches that im sure he controls the surface of!
anyway to your posts chris..
comparing bowlers to golfers... well firstly your comparing stateside bowlers to national quality golfers and a, small never gunna hold a national tournament bowling centre to, a world recognised world class golf course that yes people would kill to play on is ridiculous!
tell me why these people want to play this course..? who cares if its the most challenging course in the world? if the greens are hacked, the fairways unkept, trees fallen, bunkers not raked..do you think it would hold majors then?? i think not! people dont just want to play that course cuz its challenging.. its well kept, its a real showpiece and a model to the world (and its got a wild club house) the greens may change and conditions too, and yes the pin moves day to day (same as frame to frame, rack to rack, lane to lane at ingle farm) but yes, a good sportsman will adjust what is in his/her control but, take the golfer (for example) put him on quicksand or lets see.. marbles, just change the surface where he tees off enough to affect or hinder his footing and see if he has something to say then?? and gee could you imagine if the television showed the footage of pro golfers spitting about conditions?? what would happen? would we all think that gee they really are human..? your right tho it doesnt happen all the time and good sportsmen will adjust but humans will complain and, there is a saying that a bad tradesman always blames his tools, but what if the materials hes using are second rate and causing the probs not the tools? is this saying then correct??
on the flipside you dont see or hear from les burdett the curator at adelaide oval (another world standard sporting arena) saying its the cricketers who cant adjust or, im not doing anything different unless im asked.. a simple adjustment on the roller would fix it but cant be bothered taking the initiative to do it myself.. no hes not interested in anything but pleasing the players that grace his pitch, the crowd that comes to watch them perform and the glory of having the ground he looks after recognised as one of the top five cricket pitches in the WORLD! im sure its still a challenge to play there but its also a pleasure.. and why is this??? because the man responsible for the maintenance, upkeep and conditions at this venue takes the initiatave and pride in his work and not cuz he passes the buck when good times go bad but cuz he makes the bad time better again!
i think your problem with the public airing the conditions they bowl on is this time it affects you! nobody likes bad publicity especially if their business is surfaces and the complaints are about surfaces that they control.. but just remember all publicity is good in one way or another
bowlers dont want to play on easy conditions, its not a game if you dont have think but we just ask for conditions that suit the purpose of the activity. and why is it that you need to be told what is required?? is it hard to ask?? all comes down to pride and dedication i think..
when it comes to making cuts your right the people who make it think about their game all the time but, how do you make it past frame 5 game 1 when you blow out your knee cuz the approach is INCONSISTENT and where you slid before you now stuck.. now i know rob chinner blew the house to pieces (like usual) but im sure he went for a walk to have a closer look at the pins more than once..?? :lol:
you also made reference to golfers coming back to the same course the next day and conditions being different.. i think one of the points on this topic was that no-one had this opportunity to play again and recover on a different condition.. one day cut throat..! bit strange to pick a team from a condition that they wont be competing on.. take golf again do you pick a state team from the local putt put course??? :roll:
the reason this 'game' wont become a sport is because it takes two to tango.. both sides of the fence need to work together not against each other.. im more than willing to sit and have discussions to resolve issues but no one wants to listen to me or give me valid reasons why things r how they are, so till someone allows me and the other people who are the PAYING customers to have a voice this game will idle as it is now.. strange how it all revolves around bussiness in the end.. product and purchase.. maybe some people might understand that a little better...
im sure as adrian mentioned safety is an issue too.. pubic liability i think is the word..
i think that covers this topic in the broadest possible way
and for those who dont know me the name is Adam Spencer
just so you all dont go getting me confussed with someone else 8) oh and no im not on triple j :lol:
yibbada yibbada thats all folks
cheers spence 8)
