Belmonte again in PBA Event

[jason_doust]

First off. Great Work Belmo. Well Done.

Ratty, I like the idea of a plastic ball event a lot!

Terry, I think that your argument holds water until you look at who made the final. All the players (Carter, Weber, Barnes & Fagan) all have good hand revs and great ball roll.

In the round of 8, same deal... Mike DeVaney,Chris Barnes, Pete Weber, Jack Jurek, Jeff Carter, Robert Smith, Brian Voss and Michael Fagan.

In the Round of 16, more guys with good hand and great ball roll.

So when we remove modern equipment, we see a notable absence of the guys who are more reliant on it for their roll and carry.

So I agree in so far as the lane conditions always dictate the scoring pace, but the type of player you are dictates whether you get a leg up from modern bowling balls. They are (and have been since urethane balls) performance enhancing compounds that offer much less advantage to players with BYO revs.

I'll also comment that a factor in the scores being high is that plastic balls don't burn up the heads and the players wouldn't have to move anywhere near as much.

Cheers,
Jason

 

[AdrianS]

I'd like to see a urethane tournament next season, Ebonite can do a batch of Black Turbos for that one!!

 

[wchester]

I know I am going to regret this comment but does this end the debate whether bowling balls account for high scores and does everyone know agree it's the lane conditions that effcet scoring more than the equipment.

Terry..

I really believe that it's a combination of the resin balls, synthetic lane surfaces and sophisticated oiling machines that have caused the scoring to raise to unrealistic levels.

High scores have always been possible, whether it was a rubber, plastic or urethane ball being used. In those cases, it was the lane man who ultimately decided whether or not the scoring level was high. in 1969, when still in the juniors I set a world record with 847 for three. I averaged over 220 in league play in quite a few seasons back when plastic was the main ball of choice, even finishing as high as 237 on a couple of occasions. Today, I still average 220+ in league play. Do you really think I'm the same bowler today that I was 30 years ago? Not a chance!

The difference in today's game is that there is little of the individual lane surface characteristics influencing the scoring. Using reactive resin bowling balls, the "pocket' becomes wider, the entry angle steeper, and as a result you now carry hits that used to be 8 or 9 countsd in years past.

Even though the scoring may have looked to be high..it still took just a 216 average to make it to match play.in this week's PBA plastic ball event there were exactly ZERO 300 games. This is a direct result of the type of ball being used.

 

[Jasonguru]

i have said that all along, but at the end of the day, regardless, accuracy is king.wether u thrown it power, or fudge u can score either way if you are accurate!

 

[CHIN]

I'd like to see a urethane tournament next season, Ebonite can do a batch of Black Turbos for that one!!

HOUSE BALL TOURNAMENT.

SAVES ON FREIGHTING YOUR EQUIPMENT OVER.

 

[thomstar]

HOUSE BALL TOURNAMENT.

SAVES ON FREIGHTING YOUR EQUIPMENT OVER.

any house ball??? i saw a sumo finger tip drilled at Maryborough a couple of weeks ago!!! bowled it once..... strike you can find some alright old balls on the racks

 

[gregb]

Back to Belmo,

Keep flying the flag high for the ozzies.


http://www.pba.com/livescoring/qual_results.aspx?RoundID=1265

 

[bluey]

I've still got my old purple hammer urethane that l shoot spares with and every now and then when l'm bowling well (when l'm lined up in the ditch) l whip it out and shoot 220+. Never fails to piss off the right handers, conditions over type of ball l think has the biggest influence on scores.

 

[Rowey the li'l lefty]

Belmo fought back to finish 39th after the first 18 games (9 games on Cheetah, 9 games on Viper) in the PBA Etonic Marathon Open and made the first cut to 1/3 of the field (top 53 bowlers). Good luck for the next round and keep flying the Aussie flag proudly!

It must be something else to bowl on as many as 6 different patterns in the one tourney I'd love something that challenging.

I think it's cool how they're letting the top seed add a twist to the show by choosing the pattern they want laid down for the show as well. Arguably, it gives the best bowler throughout the week somewhat of a reward...but it could also go against them if they choose the wrong pattern. ANYTHING could happen!

Anyway, keep up the good work Belmo

Hooroo

Rowey

 

[CHIN]

Pos Name Hometown Games Block Pinfall Total Pinfall +/- 200 Average

1 Wes Malott Pflugerville, Texas 27 2230 6276 +876 232.44
2 Chris Loschetter Avon, Ohio 27 2050 6191 +791 229.30
3 Walter Ray Williams Jr. Ocala, Fla. 27 2081 6128 +728 226.96
4 Edward VanDaniker Jr Essex, Md. 27 2213 6118 +718 226.59
5 Eugene McCune Munster, Ind. 27 1990 6102 +702 226.00
6 Ritchie Allen Columbia, S.C. 27 2105 6083 +683 225.30
7 Bill O'Neill Southampton, Pa. 27 2116 6075 +675 225.00
8 Chris Barnes Double Oak, Texas 27 2092 6059 +659 224.41
9 Patrick Allen Wesley Chapel, Fla. 27 2007 6042 +642 223.78
10 Ryan Shafer Horseheads, N.Y. 27 2098 5990 +590 221.85
11 Mika Koivuniemi Hartland, Mich. 27 1960 5971 +571 221.15
12 Mike Scroggins Amarillo, Texas 27 2083 5956 +556 220.59
13 Ronnie Russell Indianapolis 27 2196 5943 +543 220.11
14 Steve Jaros Yorkville, Ill. 27 2006 5938 +538 219.93
15 Danny Wiseman Baltimore 27 2041 5915 +515 219.07
16 Chris Collins Savannah, Ga. 27 2032 5910 +510 218.89
17 Jeff Carter Springfield, Ill. 27 1999 5903 +503 218.63
18 Jason Belmonte Orange, NSW,Aust 27 2117 5898 +498 218.44
19 Brad Angelo Lockport, N.Y. 27 2066 5884 +484 217.93
20 Brian LeClair Athens, N.Y. 27 1984 5882 +482 217.85
21 Joe Bailey Pittsburgh 27 1940 5869 +469 217.37
22 Derek Sapp Keokuk, Iowa 27 2061 5867 +467 217.30
23 Pete Weber St. Ann, Mo. 27 1961 5860 +460 217.04
24 Randy Weiss Columbia, S.C. 27 1956 5857 +457 216.93
24 Rhino Page Topeka, Kan. 27 1935 5857 +457 216.93
26 Troy Wollenbecker Miami 27 2032 5850 +450 216.67
27 Thomas Smallwood Flushing, Mich. 27 1956 5845 +445 216.48
28 Tom Hess Urbandale, Iowa 27 1860 5836 +436 216.15
29 Liz Johnson Cheektowaga, N.Y. 27 2110 5834 +434 216.07
30 Mike DeVaney San Diego 27 2110 5831 +431 215.96
31 John Nolen Waterford, Mich. 27 1998 5826 +426 215.78
32 Scott Newell Deland, Fla. 27 1987 5786 +386 214.30
33 Jonathan Van Hees Newport, R.I. 27 1999 5782 +382 214.15
34 Steve Harman Indianapolis 27 2002 5778 +378 214.00
35 Michael Fagan Patchogue, N.Y. 27 2011 5775 +375 213.89
36 Mike Edwards Tulsa, Okla. 27 1871 5763 +363 213.44
37 Chris Warren Grants Pass, Ore. 27 2012 5759 +359 213.30
38 Jack Jurek Lackawanna, N.Y. 27 1800 5750 +350 212.96
39 Ryan Ciminelli Cheektowaga, N.Y. 27 1831 5744 +344 212.74
40 Mike Wolfe New Albany, Ind. 27 1958 5741 +341 212.63
41 Jason Lundquist Delaware. 27 1866 5739 +339 212.56
42 Joe Ciccone Buffalo, N.Y. 27 1900 5679 +279 210.33
42 Tony Reyes San Bruno, Calif. 27 1836 5679 +279 210.33
44 Jason Couch Clermont, Fla. 27 1897 5653 +253 209.37
45 Tom Baker King, N.C. 27 1854 5645 +245 209.07
46 Adrienne Miller Albuquerque, NM 27 1866 5644 +244 209.04
47 Jason Poli West Des Moines, Iowa 27 1885 5634 +234 208.67
48 George Branham III* Indianapolis 27 1855 5624 +224 208.30
49 Bobby Hall II Landover, Md. 27 1887 5621 +221 208.19
50 Todd Book Wapakoneta, Ohio 27 1816 5601 +201 207.44
51 Dave D'Entremont Ohio 27 1791 5544 +144 205.33
52 Andrew Cain Scottsdale, Ariz. 27 1948 5748 +348 212.89

 

[clarky030]

Keep up the great work Belmo who has moved into 13th place after 30 games

 

[Gary]

moving up

http://www.pba.com/livescoring/qual_results.aspx?RoundID=1267

 

[Peanut]

The TV Final will be on ESPN on Wed 5th of Match at 6:30pm (Adelaide time)

Belmo up to 13

 

[Peanut]

Another 240+ game form belmo jumped im up to 10th with one game to go on the Chameleon pattern

 

[CHIN]

After 36 Games

Pos Name Hometown Games Block Pinfall Total Pinfall +/-200 Average

1 Wes Malott Pflugerville, Texas 36 2019 8295 +1095 230.42
2 Chris Barnes Double Oak, Texas 36 2107 8166 +966 226.83
3 Walter Ray Williams Jr. Ocala, Fla. 36 2015 8143 +943 226.19
4 Chris Loschetter Avon, Ohio 36 1946 8137 +937 226.03
5 Bill O'Neill Southampton, Pa. 36 2028 8103 +903 225.08
6 Patrick Allen Wesley Chapel, Fla. 36 2039 8081 +881 224.47
7 Ronnie Russell Indianapolis 36 2124 8067 +867 224.08
8 Edward VanDaniker Jr Essex, Md. 36 1932 8050 +850 223.61
9 Brad Angelo Lockport, N.Y. 36 2137 8021 +821 222.81
10 Jason Belmonte Orange, NSW,Australia 36 2114 8012 +812 222.56
11 Mika Koivuniemi Hartland, Mich. 36 2022 7993 +793 222.03
12 Jeff Carter Springfield, Ill. 36 2031 7934 +734 220.39
13 Christopher Collins Savannah, Ga. 36 2022 7932 +732 220.33
14 Pete Weber St. Ann, Mo. 36 2071 7931 +731 220.31
15 Ritchie Allen Columbia, S.C. 36 1847 7930 +730 220.28
16 Mike Scroggins Amarillo, Texas 36 1970 7926 +726 220.17
17 Eugene McCune Munster, Ind. 36 1794 7896 +696 219.33
18 Brian LeClair Athens, N.Y. 36 1995 7877 +677 218.81
19 Jack Jurek Lackawanna, N.Y. 36 2125 7875 +675 218.75
20 Troy Wollenbecker Miami 36 2023 7873 +673 218.69
21 Ryan Shafer Horseheads, N.Y. 36 1880 7870 +670 218.61
22 Thomas Smallwood Flushing, Mich. 36 1982 7827 +627 217.42
23 Danny Wiseman Baltimore 36 1908 7823 +623 217.31
24 Mike DeVaney San Diego 36 1973 7804 +604 216.78
25 Rhino Page Topeka, Kan. 36 1940 7797 +597 216.58
26 Joe Bailey Pittsburgh 36 1918 7787 +587 216.31
27 Michael Fagan Patchogue, N.Y. 36 2003 7778 +578 216.06
28 Derek Sapp Keokuk, Iowa 36 1893 7760 +560 215.56
29 Steve Jaros Yorkville, Ill. 36 1819 7757 +557 215.47
30 Joe Ciccone Buffalo, N.Y. 36 2073 7752 +552 215.33
31 Liz Johnson Cheektowaga, N.Y. 36 1887 7721 +521 214.47
32 Mike Edwards Tulsa, Okla. 36 1954 7717 +517 214.36
33 Todd Book Wapakoneta, Ohio 36 2101 7702 +502 213.94
34 Randy Weiss Columbia, S.C. 36 1843 7700 +500 213.89
35 Chris Warren Grants Pass, Ore. 36 1921 7680 +480 213.33
36 Jonathan Van Hees Newport, R.I. 36 1894 7676 +476 213.22
37 Tom Hess Urbandale, Iowa 36 1834 7670 +470 213.06
38 John Nolen Waterford, Mich. 36 1839 7665 +465 212.92
39 Scott Newell Deland, Fla. 36 1867 7653 +453 212.58
40 Steve Harman Indianapolis 36 1868 7646 +446 212.39
41 Mike Wolfe New Albany, Ind. 36 1861 7602 +402 211.17
42 Jason Couch Clermont, Fla. 36 1903 7556 +356 209.89
42 Jason Lundquist Delaware 36 1817 7556 +356 209.89
44 George Branham III* Indianapolis 36 1928 7552 +352 209.78
45 Dave D'Entremont Ohio 36 1978 7522 +322 208.94
46 Tony Reyes San Bruno, Calif. 36 1838 7517 +317 208.81
47 Ryan Ciminelli Cheektowaga, N.Y. 36 1761 7505 +305 208.47
48 Tom Baker King, N.C. 36 1854 7499 +299 208.31
49 Adrienne Miller Albuquerque, NM 36 1836 7480 +280 207.78
50 Bobby Hall II Landover, Md. 36 1784 7405 +205 205.69
51 Jason Poli West Des Moines, Iowa 36 1709 7343 +143 203.97
52 Andrew Cain Scottsdale, Ariz. 36 1814 7258 +58 201.61

 

[jhk67]

Not bad. I looked up the results block by block. On the Cheetah Belmo was 79th. On the viper he was the 23rd best. However on the Scorpian and Chameleon patterns, Belmo recorded the 4th best blocks. He is gaining steam going into the Shark and Earl Anthony Patterns tomorrow.

 

[Gary]

Qualifying - Shark


Pos ▲ Name Hometown Games Block Pinfall Total
Pinfall +/-
200 Average
1 Wes Malott Pflugerville, Texas 48 753 10886 +1286 226.79
2 Chris Barnes Double Oak, Texas 48 645 10757 +1157 224.10
3 Bill O'Neill Southampton, Pa. 48 620 10727 +1127 223.48
4 Ronnie Russell Indianapolis 48 707 10701 +1101 222.94
5 Pete Weber St. Ann, Mo. 48 629 10670 +1070 222.29
6 Chris Loschetter Avon, Ohio 48 634 10647 +1047 221.81
7 Edward VanDaniker Jr Essex, Md. 48 511 10608 +1008 221.00
8 Walter Ray Williams Jr. Ocala, Fla. 48 647 10582 +982 220.46
9 Patrick Allen Wesley Chapel, Fla. 48 706 10534 +934 219.46
10 Troy Wollenbecker Miami 48 637 10527 +927 219.31
11 Jason Belmonte Orange, NSW,Australia 48 609 10508 +908 218.92
12 Danny Wiseman Baltimore 48 708 10490 +890 218.54
13 Ritchie Allen Columbia, S.C. 48 676 10468 +868 218.08
14 Christopher Collins Savannah, Ga. 48 645 10462 +862 217.96
15 Jeff Carter Springfield, Ill. 48 603 10447 +847 217.65
16 Thomas Smallwood Flushing, Mich. 48 738 10432 +832 217.33
17 Ryan Shafer Horseheads, N.Y. 48 704 10430 +830 217.29
18 Joe Bailey Pittsburgh 48 629 10422 +822 217.13
19 Michael Fagan Patchogue, N.Y. 48 711 10420 +820 217.08
20 Brian LeClair Athens, N.Y. 48 677 10415 +815 216.98
21 Mika Koivuniemi Hartland, Mich. 48 500 10401 +801 216.69
22 Steve Jaros Yorkville, Ill. 48 658 10397 +797 216.60
23 Mike Scroggins Amarillo, Texas 48 557 10395 +795 216.56
24 Mike DeVaney San Diego 48 635 10382 +782 216.29
25 Brad Angelo Lockport, N.Y. 48 564 10374 +774 216.13
26 Eugene McCune Munster, Ind. 48 566 10358 +758 215.79
27 Rhino Page Topeka, Kan. 48 719 10327 +727 215.15
28 Derek Sapp Keokuk, Iowa 48 641 10313 +713 214.85
29 Chris Warren Grants Pass, Ore. 48 696 10276 +676 214.08
30 Todd Book Wapakoneta, Ohio 48 661 10272 +672 214.00
31 Scott Newell Deland, Fla. 48 589 10200 +600 212.50
32 John Nolen Waterford, Mich. 48 652 10150 +550 211.46
33 Liz Johnson Cheektowaga, N.Y. 48 663 10148 +548 211.42
34 Joe Ciccone Buffalo, N.Y. 48 582 10128 +528 211.00
35 Jonathan Van Hees Newport, R.I. 48 639 10115 +515 210.73
36 Randy Weiss Columbia, S.C. 48 648 10114 +514 210.71
37 Mike Edwards Tulsa, Okla. 48 650 10073 +473 209.85
38 Dave D'Entremont Middleburg Heights, Ohio 48 655 10048 +448 209.33
39 Tom Baker King, N.C. 48 718 10007 +407 208.48
40 George Branham III* Indianapolis 48 644 10002 +402 208.38
41 Tom Hess Urbandale, Iowa 48 513 9999 +399 208.31
42 Mike Wolfe New Albany, Ind. 48 620 9993 +393 208.19
43 Jason Lundquist Delaware Water Gap, Pa 48 585 9922 +322 206.71
44 Ryan Ciminelli Cheektowaga, N.Y. 48 502 9889 +289 206.02
45 Jason Couch Clermont, Fla. 48 601 9879 +279 205.81
46 Adrienne Miller Albuquerque, NM 48 613 9867 +267 205.56
47 Bobby Hall II Landover, Md. 48 579 9696 +96 202.00
48 Andrew Cain Scottsdale, Ariz. 48 621 9687 +87 201.81
49 Jason Poli West Des Moines, Iowa 48 613 9521 -79 198.35

Link

http://www.pba.com/livescoring/qual_results.aspx?RoundID=1280

 

[Gary]

game 51

Etonic Marathon Open
Qualifying - Shark


Pos ▲ Name Hometown Games Block Pinfall Total
Pinfall +/-
200 Average
1 Wes Malott Pflugerville, Texas 51 1424 11557 +1357 226.61
2 Bill O'Neill Southampton, Pa. 51 1305 11412 +1212 223.76
3 Chris Barnes Double Oak, Texas 51 1277 11389 +1189 223.31
4 Ronnie Russell Indianapolis 51 1388 11382 +1182 223.18
5 Pete Weber St. Ann, Mo. 51 1322 11363 +1163 222.80
6 Edward VanDaniker Jr Essex, Md. 51 1235 11332 +1132 222.20
7 Chris Loschetter Avon, Ohio 51 1279 11292 +1092 221.41
8 Walter Ray Williams Jr. Ocala, Fla. 51 1316 11251 +1051 220.61
9 Jason Belmonte Orange, NSW,Australia 51 1319 11218 +1018 219.96
10 Troy Wollenbecker Miami 51 1315 11205 +1005 219.71
11 Ryan Shafer Horseheads, N.Y. 51 1456 11182 +982 219.25
12 Danny Wiseman Baltimore 51 1390 11172 +972 219.06
13 Thomas Smallwood Flushing, Mich. 51 1455 11149 +949 218.61
14 Ritchie Allen Columbia, S.C. 51 1355 11147 +947 218.57
15 Michael Fagan Patchogue, N.Y. 51 1429 11138 +938 218.39
16 Patrick Allen Wesley Chapel, Fla. 51 1309 11137 +937 218.

 

[Gary]

[http://www.pba.com/livescoring/qual_results.aspx?RoundID=1280&tseed= 633713506045600000

9th game 51

 

[CHIN]

Final standings after 54 games

Pos Name Hometown Games Block Pinfall Total Pinfall +/-200 Average
1 Wes Malott Pflugerville, Texas 54 2139 12272 +1472 227.26
2 Pete Weber St. Ann, Mo. 54 2008 12049 +1249 223.13
3 Ronnie Russell Indianapolis 54 2053 12047 +1247 223.09
4 Bill O'Neill Southampton, Pa. 54 1906 12013 +1213 222.46
5 Chris Barnes Double Oak, Texas 54 1898 12010 +1210 222.41
6 Edward VanDaniker Jr Essex, Md. 54 1886 11983 +1183 221.91
7 Chris Loschetter Avon, Ohio 54 1901 11914 +1114 220.63
8 Ryan Shafer Horseheads, N.Y. 54 2178 11904 +1104 220.44
9 Patrick Allen Wesley Chapel, Fla. 54 2058 11886 +1086 220.11
10 Troy Wollenbecker Miami 54 1986 11876 +1076 219.93
11 Jason Belmonte Orange, NSW,Australia 54 1970 11869 +1069 219.80
12 Ritchie Allen Columbia, S.C. 54 2049 11841 +1041 219.28
13 Walter Ray Williams Jr. Ocala, Fla. 54 1901 11836 +1036 219.19
14 Thomas Smallwood Flushing, Mich. 54 2122 11816 +1016 218.81
15 Michael Fagan Patchogue, N.Y. 54 2066 11775 +975 218.06
16 Steve Jaros Yorkville, Ill. 54 2015 11754 +954 217.67
17 Mika Koivuniemi Hartland, Mich. 54 1852 11753 +953 217.65
18 Danny Wiseman Baltimore 54 1966 11748 +948 217.56
19 Christopher Collins Savannah, Ga. 54 1903 11720 +920 217.04
20 Mike DeVaney San Diego 54 1965 11712 +912 216.89
21 Brad Angelo Lockport, N.Y. 54 1887 11697 +897 216.61
22 Jeff Carter Springfield, Ill. 54 1841 11685 +885 216.39
23 Joe Bailey Pittsburgh 54 1874 11667 +867 216.06
24 Mike Scroggins Amarillo, Texas 54 1818 11656 +856 215.85
25 Chris Warren Grants Pass, Ore. 54 2054 11634 +834 215.44
26 Brian LeClair Athens, N.Y. 54 1806 11544 +744 213.78
27 Eugene McCune Munster, Ind. 54 1745 11537 +737 213.65
28 Derek Sapp Keokuk, Iowa 54 1864 11536 +736 213.63
29 Rhino Page Topeka, Kan. 54 1912 11520 +720 213.33
30 Liz Johnson Cheektowaga, N.Y. 54 2012 11497 +697 212.91
30 Todd Book Wapakoneta, Ohio 54 1886 11497 +697 212.91
32 Scott Newell Deland, Fla. 54 1876 11487 +687 212.72
33 John Nolen Waterford, Mich. 54 1983 11481 +681 212.61
33 Joe Ciccone Buffalo, N.Y. 54 1935 11481 +681 212.61
35 Randy Weiss Columbia, S.C. 54 1979 11445 +645 211.94
36 Tom Baker King, N.C. 54 2101 11390 +590 210.93
37 Dave D'Entremont Middleburg Heights, Ohio 54 1990 11383 +583 210.80
38 Jonathan Van Hees Newport, R.I. 54 1897 11373 +573 210.61
39 Mike Edwards Tulsa, Okla. 54 1940 11363 +563 210.43
40 Mike Wolfe New Albany, Ind. 54 1955 11328 +528 209.78
41 Tom Hess Urbandale, Iowa 54 1723 11209 +409 207.57
42 George Branham III* Indianapolis 54 1832 11190 +390 207.22
43 Jason Couch Clermont, Fla. 54 1906 11184 +384 207.11
44 Ryan Ciminelli Cheektowaga, N.Y. 54 1758 11145 +345 206.39
45 Jason Lundquist Delaware Water Gap, Pa 54 1781 11118 +318 205.89
46 Adrienne Miller Albuquerque, NM 54 1652 10906 +106 201.96
47 Andrew Cain Scottsdale, Ariz. 54 1764 10830 +30 200.56
48 Bobby Hall II Landover, Md. 54 1620 10737 -63 198.83
49 Jason Poli West Des Moines, Iowa 54 1588 10496 -304 194.37

Another great effort Belmo.